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	<title>Comments on: Putting a Value on Email Design and Optimization</title>
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		<title>By: Rebekah Donaldson</title>
		<link>http://blog.indiemark.com/2009/07/31/email-creative-design-optimization/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebekah Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah -- and you asked about services NOT requested by someone seeking email help. 

In general if a client comes in with a laser focus on a specific tactic like &#039;write my newsletter&#039; they&#039;re less likely to be thinking &#039;I need to first spend time and money on strategy.&#039; 

Rather they are thinking, &quot;I want to get the word out... yesterday.&quot; Which is totally normal and understandable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah &#8212; and you asked about services NOT requested by someone seeking email help. </p>
<p>In general if a client comes in with a laser focus on a specific tactic like &#8216;write my newsletter&#8217; they&#8217;re less likely to be thinking &#8216;I need to first spend time and money on strategy.&#8217; </p>
<p>Rather they are thinking, &#8220;I want to get the word out&#8230; yesterday.&#8221; Which is totally normal and understandable.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebekah Donaldson</title>
		<link>http://blog.indiemark.com/2009/07/31/email-creative-design-optimization/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebekah Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course. But then I&#039;ll have to kill you. Just. Kidding.

If a client asks for help with a specific tactic like email marketing out of the gates, typically we start with a Marketing Coaching Session ($399). That&#039;s 90 minutes of one on one private professional discussion and guidance with yours truly about your marketing needs and goals. You receive written Recommended Next Steps and Tip Sheets.

Next steps depend on what stage the client is at with marketing -- are there clear personas or are we going from the ground up? 

When we have the foundation to focus on the email marketing tactic, an important step is nailing down editorial calendar (jargon for what to publish when).

Important to aim for the right mix of topics and valuable info for readers: Good ones have a mix of types of topics - more here: 

http://www.b2bcommunications.com/using-targeted-email-marketing

Also maybe this is useful to your readers:

http://www.b2bcommunications.com/b2b-email-top-10-mistakes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course. But then I&#8217;ll have to kill you. Just. Kidding.</p>
<p>If a client asks for help with a specific tactic like email marketing out of the gates, typically we start with a Marketing Coaching Session ($399). That&#8217;s 90 minutes of one on one private professional discussion and guidance with yours truly about your marketing needs and goals. You receive written Recommended Next Steps and Tip Sheets.</p>
<p>Next steps depend on what stage the client is at with marketing &#8212; are there clear personas or are we going from the ground up? </p>
<p>When we have the foundation to focus on the email marketing tactic, an important step is nailing down editorial calendar (jargon for what to publish when).</p>
<p>Important to aim for the right mix of topics and valuable info for readers: Good ones have a mix of types of topics &#8211; more here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.b2bcommunications.com/using-targeted-email-marketing" rel="nofollow">http://www.b2bcommunications.com/using-targeted-email-marketing</a></p>
<p>Also maybe this is useful to your readers:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.b2bcommunications.com/b2b-email-top-10-mistakes" rel="nofollow">http://www.b2bcommunications.com/b2b-email-top-10-mistakes</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hardigree</title>
		<link>http://blog.indiemark.com/2009/07/31/email-creative-design-optimization/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hardigree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again Rebekah. The post  was purely an observation which brought up the question of value as it translates to $$$. Although the scale of the poll was small, the results of the poll are somewhat grim for suppliers (yet not all that surprising). 

Specific to email consulting/strategy/design/copy -- could you give us some insight into the scope of services that are generally requested (and those that are not)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again Rebekah. The post  was purely an observation which brought up the question of value as it translates to $$$. Although the scale of the poll was small, the results of the poll are somewhat grim for suppliers (yet not all that surprising). </p>
<p>Specific to email consulting/strategy/design/copy &#8212; could you give us some insight into the scope of services that are generally requested (and those that are not)?</p>
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		<title>By: Rebekah Donaldson</title>
		<link>http://blog.indiemark.com/2009/07/31/email-creative-design-optimization/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebekah Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm - insightful question and I&#039;ll surf over and take the poll in a minute. But two comments come to mind:

- Competition for top rank on terms like &quot;email marketing consultant&quot; is pretty stiff... leading me to think many agencies/consultants are targeting that phrase. I don&#039;t have #s in front of me but know we targeted something more long tail because it&#039;s crowded in Google for the generic version.

- We have a page on just what you&#039;re describing -- the services people use once they have an email marketing platform. I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s helpful but it&#039;s at http://www.b2bcommunications.com/b2b-email-marketing-campaign. Get about 1 lead/mo from that page though it doesn&#039;t yet have a matching offer page like some other pages (on my long list of to-dos). 

Ok now my gears are turning so one last thing: I&#039;d model the value prop the same way as you do when complementing a DIY web CMS like Hubspot. It&#039;s built and sold as &#039;no pro assistance required&#039; but there&#039;s lots of room for a pro to help someone short on time or skills to crank out lead generating content using the platform as a tool.

Or am I missing the point of your post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm &#8211; insightful question and I&#8217;ll surf over and take the poll in a minute. But two comments come to mind:</p>
<p>- Competition for top rank on terms like &#8220;email marketing consultant&#8221; is pretty stiff&#8230; leading me to think many agencies/consultants are targeting that phrase. I don&#8217;t have #s in front of me but know we targeted something more long tail because it&#8217;s crowded in Google for the generic version.</p>
<p>- We have a page on just what you&#8217;re describing &#8212; the services people use once they have an email marketing platform. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s helpful but it&#8217;s at <a href="http://www.b2bcommunications.com/b2b-email-marketing-campaign" rel="nofollow">http://www.b2bcommunications.com/b2b-email-marketing-campaign</a>. Get about 1 lead/mo from that page though it doesn&#8217;t yet have a matching offer page like some other pages (on my long list of to-dos). </p>
<p>Ok now my gears are turning so one last thing: I&#8217;d model the value prop the same way as you do when complementing a DIY web CMS like Hubspot. It&#8217;s built and sold as &#8216;no pro assistance required&#8217; but there&#8217;s lots of room for a pro to help someone short on time or skills to crank out lead generating content using the platform as a tool.</p>
<p>Or am I missing the point of your post?</p>
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